silent films

[The Baines Hunt Rebel]

you definately need to watch some eisenstein, the man will teach you a lot. even fast cuts, what, in a silent film? yes

[SnackpackOsmosis]

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I think the music should not represent the mood of the scene (Good the Bad and the Ugly, whistling), but be part of it (2001)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You don't think the music in The Good, The Bad, And the Ugly is part of it? I think it's a huge part of it.

[SnackpackOsmosis]

You should see the Buster Keaton silent film, "The General." Buster Keaton is a genius.

[SnackpackOsmosis]

You should see the Buster Keaton silent film, "The General." Buster Keaton is a genius.

[eddie]

what about 'carnival of lost souls' - its very nearly silent, or Bladerunner - that script cant be more than a few pages long.
What is it that makes these films 'work'...?

Its more than a damn good story: its how it is told.

[Red House Painter]

In response to snackpack, I don't think i made myself very clear. An acousmatic experience is something described by Roger Scruton, who defines this as being in a room and listening to music that comes from no apparent source. If this were possible then an emotional response is easier to evoke from the listener. (the closest we can get is earphones)
For example, The Doors were heavily influenced by Brecht and his ideas about theatre and applied it to music and their own performance. In When the Music is over, Morrison says 'I hear a very gentle sound', then Robby krieger makes a gentle sound on guitar. This makes us consiously think about what we are hearing, whereas Pink Floyd who are perhaps at the other end of the spectrum to the doors, would have just made the gentle sound without introducing it in any way. What I am suggesting is that the music for the film discussed, is there to heighten the intensity or mood, rather than reflect it. Any music with a riff, catch or hook will distract from the mood. In the Good the Bad.. we think how cool Clint is and can recall the moments in which it appears. Take another look at Bladerunner where batty dies but beforehand try and remember the music behind it. Trying to do this now, I can't hum, whistle or even imagine the melody but without it the scene would have only half the impact that it does.
It's hard talking about it when I'm writing it down as I could write a whole essay on it(actually I have done but I'm not going to post it).